Roman Catholic Spiritual Direction

How should I discern if God is calling me to leave my spiritual community?

July 11, 2011 by  
Filed under Discernment, Q and A

Q: Dear Dan, Our women’s Regnum Christi team no longer meets and some have left the movement entirely. After having been in Regnum Christi for 10 years, the faith, fellowship and friendship really meant a lot. However my husband and I came across a local lay-Carmelite movement this year through a priest who invited his entire congregation one Sunday to a lay-Carmelite meeting! This is unusual, in comparison to the Regnum Christi method of person-to-person invitation. Is this God’s way of showing another pathway to holiness? The Regnum Christi movement has been a beautiful way for lay members to grow in holiness over the last 10 years. It seems best to move with the Holy Spirit. How can we truly know what God’s calling is?

A: Dear Friend, This is a very difficult question. First, it is not common to be called into association with one religious order and then to be call by God to another. The vows or commitments we make to a particular spirituality are very serious and we make them to God, not just to the religious institution or community. If we do find ourselves legitimately called to a different spirituality, it is more probable that we were confused about our original call or in some way may have chosen our first path for motives that were not in keeping with the movement of the Holy Spirit. It is also possible that we may have fallen prey to sin or the deception of the enemy both in our association or disassociation with any particular spirituality. Still, there are legitimate instances wherein it seems that God works through a particular spirituality with someone for a period and then they find their final spiritual home in another.

For example, Sister Lucia of Fatima made her perpetual vows as a Sister of St. Dorothy and then after a visit to Fatima discerned a call to become a Discalced Carmelite and then died in that order. St. Anthony of Padova was initially an Augustinian but died as a Franciscan. More recently Blessed Mother Teresa was professed as a Sister of Loreto and then God clearly called her to leave Loreto to found the Missionaries of Charity. There are many others (though very few in comparative numbers to all religious) but suffice it to say that these changes were serious and profound to all involved. These decisions were never made in isolation or with haste.

A confounding factor is all this is that in the younger movements and spiritualties in the Church there is often a far less mature discernment process for members. This can cause some to enter into these communities without a proper discernment regarding the Holy Spirit’s call. The more mature orders such as the Carmelites and the Franciscans can take up to six years of discernment before an individual is fully received into the order. Though this might be the opposite end of extremes and can discourage some who might be legitimately called to them, it also helps them to avoid the many misfires and relational and spiritual challenges that are common outcomes of less rigorous discernment processes.

It is also very important to understand that the institutions we chose to affiliate with are human institutions in the sense that God works through people to bring people to him. In that reality, the normal ups and downs in relationships with individuals and the institution as a whole can be glorious, strained, challenging, rewarding, frustrating, hurtful, healing, joyful, wounding, and all the other range of experience that we humans tend to swim through in life. It would be a mistake to abandon any relationship when it may be going through a challenging period (even a humiliating one) that could yield very powerful encounters with God’s grace and work of holiness our lives. We must lean into our struggles and prayer and listen carefully when we begin to suffer in the same places where we once received great consolations.

So, what should you do? If you are deeply conflicted it might be best to seek spiritual direction or advice from a neutral party who can help you properly assess the situation. Let me be very clear here, it would not be beneficial to you to find a director or advice from someone who is openly hostile to the current spirituality to which you are presently committed (no matter what that may be). An unfortunate and sinful reality from the beginning of the Church is the opposition that members of spiritual communities have expressed towards one another (this includes diocesan clergy who often struggle with religious orders or movements). To avoid the confusion that can result here, if I were a member of Opus Dei and was seriously struggling with some aspect of my life in Opus Dei, I would never seek the advice of a spiritual director who is hostile to Opus Dei. This point seems very obvious but I have seen this basic wisdom ignored many times by people who should have known better. All were harmed when this foolishness prevailed. It is very important to find someone who can really help you to best discern how the Holy Spirit is leading you rather than one who might steer you in a particular direction because of their immaturity and inability to appreciate the unique works of God represented in the spiritualties approved by the Church.

From your description, it sounds like Regnum Christi has been a tremendous blessing to you and your husband. In the very sparse information I have from your question, I have not heard some of the key indicators that would lead me to deduce that you are called elsewhere (thought you may in fact be called elsewhere). For instance, if the spiritual rigor of the prayer commitments are energizing and motivating to you and have been since the beginning, this might be a sign you are called to remain in the movement and fight through whatever challenges you face. If, on the other hand, they have always felt oppressive to you, this might be a sign that you should seriously evaluate 1) your own weaknesses and sin to determine if they are the real problem, 2) that you may not have been called to this spirituality in the first place, or 3) that God did legitimately lead you there and now he is leading you elsewhere.

Pray and seek counsel and be assured of my prayers. May Our Lady of Sorrows also be with you and may her prayers reveal the glory and wisdom of God to you.

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  • Anonymous

    I think this is really sound counsel. 
    My experience with the third order Carmelites was that both the aspirant and the community discern whether a person is called to join their particular community- they do not take everyone who asks to join them. I would guess it is similar for other orders and movements.

    • Anonymous

      Right on target as usual Jo

  • LA_Pelican

    Dan, thank you for this thorough and very balanced answer.  There are probably many people who will be helped by your advice.  Please keep up the good work.

  • Sandy

    Thank you, Dan, for sharing your thoughts on this matter. After much discernment and Spiritual Direction, I left a religious movement nearly three years ago and became a Benedictine Oblate with my husband.  There have been many fruits from my difficult decision to leave the movement. As a result, my husband and I are now journeying together and have grown much closer in our relationship. 

  • Angel

    Thank you for this entry.  I too have struggled between two communities and also chose the Bendictine Oblates.  It was a difficult decision and there are many people in the other community whom I greatly love.  In the end the decision came down to choosing Christ above all and going to the community, the spirituality which would best lead me to HIM.   

  • Stephen

    “The anxiety you speak of as disturbing your meditation,and the eagerness you indulge in seeking somewhat whereon to fix and satisfy your mind,is alone sufficient to hinder you in finding what you want.We pass over the thing we are seeking a hundred times when we seek it too eagerly.Nothing can come of such useless hurry and restlessness,save weariness of spirit;and hence the coldness and languor of the soul.I do not know what remedies you should employ;but I think that if you can conquer this eagerness you will have gained a great step,for it is one of the worst traitors we have to deal with in devotion and true holiness.It pretends to kindle in us,while,in fact,it chills our life,and makes us run merely that we may stumble.Eagerness and hurry must be perpetually guarded against,above all in prayer.”—from a letter to a your lady by St.Francis de Sales

  • Heather

    Thank you, Dan. Excellent article- especially in a time in our Holy Church whereas a priest friend of mine remarked sadly that it seems many are “collecting” devotions and Confraternities much like Holy Cards and not praying or doing any holy justice… A series of articles on this serious and unfortunate reality would be outstanding. St. Louis de Monfort warned of this kind of ‘false’ devotion.
    God Bless you for your ministry-

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  • Ralyge

         I recently went through a similar discernment and found that God formed me in one community and sent me out to another. I agree with: (1) the seriousness of commitment to a community, (2) the need for a neutral spiritual director (or at least one who you can be completely open with and you know is totally docile to the Holy Spirit and without prejudice of any kind regarding the different orders, associations and movements), as well as (3) the need to examine the authenticity of the call (which may be complex for some Regnum Christi in light of their situation).
          However, it seems prudent to above all recommend that the individual take this particular question to prayer, asking the Lord what His will is, why there is unrest, paying special attention to discernment of spirits, journal all this and bring it back month after month to spiritual direction. Only this will fill in all the gaps considering the “sparse” information offered, allowing the individual to know if this is a temptation or an inspiration.

    • Anonymous

      Good and important insights

  • Mobrien7

    Hello,

    Thank you for the commentary.  I have been discerning what movement I might join to help my faith, and my family’s faith.

    Mike

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